Photostat of Susan Nordyke's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)
NC Sez: The other day I was watching the O’Reilly Factor as Bill was bloviating how birthers are lunatics and the whole birth certificate issue is crazy because he personally investigated the birth certificate controversy, saw the original BC, and found nothing illegal. HUH? I thought, “O’Reilly, if this is true that you personally investigated the birth certificate controversy,and saw it, then how did you get past the court order to see the original birth certificate since these documents had been sealed by court order?” O’Reilly hasn’t seen Obama’s real long form birth certificate! He’s crazy and if he has seen it then show us a copy of it, Bill! I think you are the lunatic and you’re crazy!
Real documents include name of doctor, hospital
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.
The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
The Nordykes’ certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.
As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii’s director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House’s refusal to release Obama’s original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino declared she has seen the “original birth records” that verify Obama was born in Hawaii and is a “natural-born American citizen,” the Honolulu Advertiser reported.
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But in two separate telephone interviews with WND, Janice Okubo, the health department’s public information officer, told WND that Hawaii law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.
WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001.
Photostat of Susan Nordyke's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)
The statement to WND by Janice Okubo, public information officer for state’s health department, contradicted CNN U.S. President Jon Klein, who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing Obama’s birth certificate on the air. Klein insisted the issue was “dead” because Obama’s original long-form birth certificate had been destroyed by the Hawaii DOH in the conversion to electronic files.
A close examination of the birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani to the Nordyke twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the future president was born a day earlier.
Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
According to a version of Obama’s purported short-form certificate available from FactCheck.org, Obama was given a higher registration number than the Nordyke twins. The online image indicates the number is No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.
The middle figure in Obama’s purported registration also is different than the Nordykes’. Obama’s is 1961, indicating the year, while the Nordykes’ is merely 61.
One explanation for the out-of-order serial numbers might be that several serialized stacks of birth certificates were made available at different hospitals.
Another possibility is that Obama’s number is not a genuine registration number created in 1961 but was issued when the short-form document was generated during the 2008 presidential campaign.
Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier. Nordyke’s twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.
WND was unable to receive a response from Hawaii officials regarding the state’s procedure for issuing registration numbers.
Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring “Busted!”
He pointed out that the background text, in Dutch, explained, in a rough translation, “This is not a government document. This is political commentary.”
Jack
on Jul 29th, 2009
@ 7:04 am:
Here’s Obama’s dilemma in a nutshell (READ VERY CAREFULLY AND DIGEST):
If BHO shows his original long form birth certificate, indeed showing he was born in Hawaii, it will also show his father was American citizen, Frank Marshall Davis, not the Kenyan/British citizen, Barack Obama Sr. While that would allow Barack Jr. to be POTUS eligible as BOTH a “citizen”/“native born citizen” AND an Article 2 “natural born citizen” — that is, born to two American citizens on American soil — it would simultaneously show he is a fraud hiding his real father — an unacceptable political debacle.
If, on the other hand, BHO keeps hiding his original long form birth certificate — while simply repeating, without showing, he was born in Hawaii — he can still CLAIM BOTH he was born in Hawaii AND his father was the Kenyan/British Barack Obama Sr. This would enable Barack Jr. to claim he’s a “citizen”/“native born citizen” but it would mean (if a federal court would ever get around to declaring and thus far no one has standing to bring the suit) that he’s NOT an Article 2 “natural born citizen” and thus not eligible to be POTUS — a legal/constitutional debacle since all acts under an illegal POTUS are void.
So it seems, BHO has elected option one until forced to go option two because for now it looks like no federal court will ever find a plaintiff with standing. (Of course, there’s the additional issue of BHO losing American citizen status if/when he became an Indonesian citizen — that is, IF he returned and was naturalized he would be a legal citizen, but would lose both native and natural born status, and, IF he returned and was not naturalized, he would be an illegal immigrant unlawfully in this country — but we’ll leave that for another day.)
nocompromise
on Jul 29th, 2009
@ 9:21 am:
I hear ya, but I can guarantee you faux-bama is not the son of Marshall. I have seen Marshall’s son and the obamunist has NO features like marshall. However, I don’t believe he is the son of this kenyan Citizen either as obama does not have any of that man’s features either.
I don’t think obama even knows who his real dad is as his mother was a scankie whore who slept with so many men she probably doesn’t even know who obama’s father is. I think Stanley Ann Dunham told little barack what she thought but she probably didn’t know.
They didn’t have DNA testing back then, and blood tests where general, so in reality she was just guessing. Hey for all we know, obama is the son of Malcolm X and Obama doesn’t know this, his mother perhaps had a guess, and Malcolm didn’t know. That would make Obama a natural born citizen in the flavor of Black Nationalists who are practicing faux-islam! Ya know like Louis Farakkhan!
But there is no way he is the son of Marshall. Frank Jr looks exactly like Frank Sr.
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on Oct 21st, 2009
@ 12:21 pm:
[...] you should probably make sure yours are correct. Susan Nordyke seems to have so obtained one. Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates | No Compromise when you're Right! Please source your assertion that the state will refuse the individual a copy of his birth record. [...]
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on Nov 3rd, 2009
@ 11:21 am:
[...] Registration is open only to US citizens who submit copies of their long-form birth certificates. No Hawaiian or Kenyan applicants will be accepted at this [...]